This is Det. Schaffner of the Clearwater Police
Department. It is currently Monday, 5/19/97. The time is
1745 hours. I'm presently at 1540 Gulf Boulevard, Apt.
xxxx. This will be in reference to Case #97-09442. The
victim's name is Michael Pattinson. Address of occurrence
is 200 N. Osceola Avenue. The incident is False
Imprisonment. It occurred on 6/19/96. With me here in the
apartment is Det. Tom Miller and Michael Pattinson.
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay, I'm gonna put
the tape recorder down. Okay Mike, do you know
you're being tape recorded? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I do. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. For the tape
recorder, could you spell your first, middle, and
last name? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. Michael...M I C
H A E L...Philip... P H I L I P...Pattinson... P
A T T I N S O N. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. And what is
your date of birth? |
| Pattinson: |
4th of July, 1949. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And what is your
residence? |
| Pattinson: |
Right now it's 1540
Gulf Boulevard, Clearwater, Florida. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Once again,
you know you're being tape recorded. Are you
making these statements freely and voluntarily? |
| Pattinson: |
Absolutely. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And it's in regards
to the case we've been talking about that
occurred at 200 N. Osceola Avenue? |
| Pattinson: |
That's right. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. This incident
occurred on what date? |
| Pattinson: |
It
occurred...occurred on June 19, 1996 in the
afternoon..early afternoon. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And that address of
200 N. Osceola...what is at that address? |
| Pattinson: |
That is the
Sandcastle Hotel and Technical Building for the
Church of Scientology. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Let's start
with that day and briefly discuss what happened.
How did...how did you arrive at that location? |
| Pattinson: |
I received a call
from Cosima asking me to come in for an
interview. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Cosima? |
| Pattinson: |
Cosima...yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Do you know how to
spell that? |
| Pattinson: |
C O S I M A. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And she's who with
the Church? |
| Pattinson: |
She is a Public
Master At Arms. She is an Italian lady. I don't
know her family name but her name is Cosima. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. And she called
you at your residence here? |
| Pattinson: |
Here...yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Go ahead. |
| Pattinson: |
And I didn't want to
go in because I was very very busy. But in the
end, I agreed to go in for an interview. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
About what time was
this...you recall? |
| Pattinson: |
It was just after
Iunch. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
And so I went in for
the interview. And I arrived and she took me into
her office. And then we started an interview at
that time. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Who was in the
office with you? |
| Pattinson: |
Just her. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. And what did
the interview consist of? |
| Pattinson: |
Well, it was rather
an unusual one in that it was not the normal
Scientology procedures at all. I won't go into
all the details of that, but basically it was
something which was not in alignment with the
writings of Ron Hubbard, And so I was objecting
very strongly to what was going on. And she was
telling me that the case supervisor...my case
superrisor...had told me that i needed to get
what's called a Sec Chek...a Security Chek. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Can you briefly for
the record...what is sec? Are you talking about S
E C? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. S E C and then
C H E K. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
Security Chek. It's
like a Scientology auditing procedure, which is
not a formal so called session...like it's not
counseling. It's basically finding out if you've
done any discredible acts on the E Meter and then
writing them down in a folder. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And that's why
Cosima wanted to talk to you? |
| Pattinson: |
That's right. But I
knew this was gonna cost some money and I did not
want to do that. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Well, how much does
a Sec Chek cost? |
| Pattinson: |
Well, it can be
anything. Starting at $7,400 for my particular
case level...level in Scientology. And if it
takes more than one 12 1/2 hour block, then it
can be doubled or tripled or quadrupled. There's
no limit to how long it could go on. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And how long does
this last? |
| Pattinson: |
Uh...well, each
block of 12 1/2 hours would be delivered within
about a week or two. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. So she
discussed this with you? |
| Pattinson: |
She just said that
that's what I needed to have. And I disagreed
with her. I did not want that because that was
not the problem I was trying to solve. That was
just...it was a completely wrong so called
solution. And then she proceeded to read reports
which I had written about various behaviors of
staff members of the Church of Scientology over
there. But saying that I was being critical of
them and there was something wrong with
me...therefore, I needed to buy a Sec Chek in
order to handle my problem because I was
critical. It was like it was completely backwards
from the actual truth of the matter. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Did you
want...did you get this Sec Chek? |
| Pattinson: |
No. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. At what point
did you tell her that you did not want this
procedure? |
| Pattinson: |
Oh several times in
that interview. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. What did she
do after you told her the last time that you did
not want this? |
| Pattinson: |
She asked me...well,
she...she just said "follow me." But
prior to that, I'd been writing notes in the
interview just so that...it was going so badly
that I just wanted a record of it because I'd had
interviews with her before which had not gone
well. So I wrote down notes of what occurred in
that particular interview. Then she said
"okay, come with me" and she led me to
Hy Levy's office. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Now Hy Levy's
office is in the same building? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And about how far
away is that? |
| Pattinson: |
Oh...30 or 40 yards
or so. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. So you
voluntarily went with her to Hy Levy's office? |
| Pattinson: |
Yeah. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. When you got
to Hy Levy's offrce, what did you do there? |
| Pattinson: |
Umm...I went into
the room. I sat down at his desk and Hy was at
his desk. Cosima sat down behind him. And Cosima
proceeded to explain to Hy that the case
supervisor had decided that I needed to have a
Sec Chek right now and that I should get that
done. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
And I said I was not
interested in doing that. And they proceeded to
try and persuade me to do so. I said
"Listen, I can't afford to do this...I don't
want to have this...I have no intention of doing
this at all." Besides, I knew I would not do
it, mostly because it had been done before where
I had been coerced into buying $7,400 worth of
auditing on the Freewinds ship against my will in
1991. And I had..had to pay the money at that
particular point in time. And it had been a
tremendous financial burden afterwards with no
resolve whatsoever. So I was getting upset with
these people, Hy and Cosima, who were saying that
I could not leave that office without paying that
money. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Was there anybody
else in the office? |
| Pattinson: |
Just the...just
three of us. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Just the three.
Okay. At what point did you finally convince them
that you did not want this procedure and you
wanted to leave? |
| Pattinson: |
Oh, I told them
several times "Listen, I want to leave...I
don't want to have this..this interview...I don't
want the service...and I'm not buying
anything...I'm not gonna borrow any money."
And Hy was saying "Look, who can you borrow
the money from?...Can you borrow it from Rick
Asano...could you borrow it from Elina Maya over
in Mexico?...who could you borrow it from?"
I said "I'm not borrowing from anybody...I
don't want this service...I'm not interested in
it and I'm not gonna do it." I was very
firm....just like I'm speaking to you now.
"I will not do this." And they just
over-rode.. .everything I said, they just ignored
it. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Were you free
to leave? |
| Pattinson: |
I...I thought I was.
|
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Did you try to
leave? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, after about 20
or 25 minutes of this slinging back and forth of
like "I'm not going to pay you for this
stuff...I don't want this service" and
"Yes you are...you're not leaving this
office until this money is paid and you have this
Sec Chek" I said "This is not gonna
occur." And in the end I...after about 25
minutes...something like that...I took my
folder...my photograph album, which I had with
me...and I got up slowly and I said "Listen,
I'm sorry, this interview is gonna end...I'm not
gonna do this" and...you know "So long
for now." And I turned towards the door and
Cosima came in between me and the door. And then
Hy came in between me and the door and blocked
the door. I got it open a couple of inches and
they stopped me from leaving the office even
though I wanted to leave. Prior to that...I just
want to say...I had said on two or three
occasions "Listen, I'm being held here
against my will...I do not wish to be
here...you're gonna have to let me go...I don't
want this service...I'm not interested in your
arguments anymore...I want to leave." |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And this was the
first time that you actually tried to get up and
leave? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, that's
correct...I... |
| Det. Schaffner: |
But they both stood
in front of the door? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Now the
door...there's two doors to the office? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
This particular
door...how does it open? |
| Pattinson: |
It opens inwards. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So they were
standing in front of the door...so you would've
had to pull the door towards you. |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
The door would not
open with them there. |
| Pattinson: |
Exactly. It opened a
few inches and then they pushed their bodies
against it and it closed again. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And you told them
that you wanted to leave? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I did. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And what did they
tell you? |
| Pattinson: |
"We're not
finished...you haven't got the intensive
yet....you sit down...sit down...be calm."
And by this time I was in tears frankly. I was
emotionally very very upset. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Who told this to
you...that you could not leave? |
| Pattinson: |
Hy Levy told me I
couldn't leave without doing that. He said it
several times. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
It was Hy speaking
that you can not leave. |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And they both were
standing in front of the door? |
| Pattinson: |
That's correct. |
| Det. Schafiner: |
Okay. Did this get
turned into a physical confrontation? |
| Pattinson: |
I didn't want to hit
anybody. I didn't want to become physically
violent with anybody and I did not at anytime.
However, it was like...you know...just like a
soft contact kind thing like I want to leave but
there's two bodies standing between me and the
door. I tried to pull the door but it was just
not possible. So then I let go of the door knob,
and at that point I think I just broke into tears
because I couldn't stand it any longer. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Did you push either
one of them? |
| Pattinson: |
No. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Did they push you? |
| Pattinson: |
It was a very gentle
pushing, but it was a...it was a pushing so I
could not leave. I was being actually physically
prevented from leaving. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And who was doing
this? |
| Pattinson: |
Hy and Cosima. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Both of them? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Which one of them
actually physically prevented you from leaving by
pushing you? |
| Pattinson: |
Hy Levy. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Hy did? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. It was not a
violent pushing. It was just a "you're gonna
stay here" push.
|
| Det. Schaffner: |
How did he push you?
With one hand...two hands? Where did he touch you
at? |
| Pattinson: |
Put it on the
shoulder and on top...top of the arm. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
With...with one
hand...two hands? |
| Pattinson: |
No, it was just
like...I think...I...I don't remember very well
that particular part, but I know that I couldn't
leave without actually...you know...punching them
out or something and I wasn't gonna do that as I
was a member of the Church at that time. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Did you...did you
try and get help? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
How did you do this? |
| Pattinson: |
I shouted for help
through the door, which was like very partially
open...I managed to get it open one or two times
and I shouted for help. But I was...by this time
I was very emotionally upset and I was like
shouting for help. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Who would have been
outside to hear you? |
| Pattinson: |
The receptionist at
the Registrar's Office. There was the cashier in
a booth. Persons in the IAS Office over the
whole...and possibly some public persons who may
have been waiting there. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So the door that
opens up into a lobby area where there's other
offices inside? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. Those
offices...some of them don't have doors on them
and they wouldte been...I...I'm pretty sure
somebody heard me. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Did anybody
acknowledge that they heard you? |
| Pattinson: |
No. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Did you see anybody
look in your direction when you were yelling
help? |
| Pattinson: |
No, I didn't. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So after..after this
happened, you did not go out the door, right? |
| Pattinson: |
No, I did not go
outside. I was unable to go out of that door. I
stood against the wall for about five minutes
because I was in tears and I was very very upset.
And they were trying to calm me down. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
What did you do
then? |
| Pattinson: |
I sat back down
again after five minutes. And then Hy Levy
proceeded to tell me that, if I didn't want
this..to pay this money and to have this auditing
procedure...that there was something wrong with
me...that my integrity was suspect,..that I was
not a good Scientologist...that basically he was
like what's called invalidation. It's like
putting somebody down. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
To invalidate
someone is to put them down? |
| Pattinson: |
That's right...yes.
It's like...you have something which is valid.
Then you would say that that's invalid...it's
just like making it wrong or criticizing it. So
we went on with that for quite a...quite a time.
Then he was still saying "Listen, we're
gonna do this...you're not leaving here until
this is done." And then Cosima was agreeing
with that and that worked. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Where was Hy at this
time? |
| Pattinson: |
He was back behind
the desk again sitting down. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And where was
Cosima? |
| Pattinson: |
Behind me again on
my lefthand side. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Was she sitting down
also? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So there was at
least three chairs in this office? |
| Pattinson: |
Yeah, probably four
chairs. Four chairs actually...yeah, there were
four chairs in the office at that time. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Approximately how
big is the office? |
| Pattinson: |
About 9' x 9'
approltimately. I can't be sure about that. It
may be even smaller than that. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Was there any
windows to the office? |
| Pattinson: |
Yeah. One big window
which doesn't open. And a door next to that,
which goes out...straight out to the garden. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. So then what
happened after you sat back down and everybody
else was sitting down? |
| Pattinson: |
Well, I was in
tears. I was...I mean...l was weeping because
frankly the emotional upset...not just of that
but of the whole last six years of my
relationship with the Church of Scientofogy has
been a nightmare. And frankly I've had to hold it
within myself all the time. At that time, it was
like a breakdown. I just couldn't stand it
anymore because I was being held against my will.
I told them so and they would not let me out of
the mom. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
You told both of
them that they were holding you against your
will? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I did. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And that you wanted
to leave? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I did.
I...maybe two or three times. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
And I was crying and
they were still trying to encourage me to do this
because that was...that was the solution and
that's what would save me. And I knew that was
absolutely not true at all. I did not want that.
I'd already been there and done that. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
You're talking about
the... |
| Pattinson: |
The Sec Chek. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
The Sec Chek. |
| Pattinson: |
I've already been
there and done that. I've already spent God knows
how much money on that with no resolve
whatsoever. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
Because the fault
was not mine in the first place in this
particular case. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And then what
happened? |
| Pattinson: |
Then I was...when I
started to recover, which was probably about 20
minutes...20 to 25 minutes later...I thought to
myself "okay, I'm not gonna be able to get
out of here unless I devise a plan to
escape." And so I looked at that door...or
the other door that went out to the garden. I
just said to myself "I hope that door is not
locked because I'm gonna go through it." And
so I said to myself "Okay...I'm gonna pick
up my album...I'm gonna make it look like I'm
gonna go back out of the door again, which I just
was prevented from going out before." |
| Det. Schaffner: |
That's the door that
leads into the lobby area? |
| Pattinson: |
That's right. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
I said "I'm
gonna make it look like I'm gonna try and go
through that door again because they're gonna put
themselves between me again" which they did.
"And at that point, I'm gonna make a break
for the other door...hope it's not locked...and
bolt...get out of here...I'm gonna escape."
Because they were not gonna let me out of there
until I paid them. I had no intention of doing
that. I had to get back and work. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Who...who demanded
you pay the money? |
| Pattinson: |
Hy Levy. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And what...what was
the demand amount? |
| Pattinson: |
$7,400 as...as a
starting fee. That would...it probably would've
been more if it had gone over 12 1/2 hours. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And that's what you
would have to pay before you could get out of
this office? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, that's conect. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
And the ploy worked
because they did put themselves between me and
the door again as they did the first time. At
that time, I...I went very very fast through the
other door, which was not locked thank God. And I
bolted straight across the garden...past the
fountain...and they were chasing me by this
time...physically chasing me towards my car. And
I made it to my car just before them up on
Osceola Avenue. And they tried to shut the door
of the car as I was opening it but they didn't
succeed. I got in the car. I wa, able to maneuver
out of the position and go home. I was very very
shaken indeed...emotionally totally drained. But
they didn't try...you know...didn't stand in
front of the car, so I didn't do anything violent
to them. But I did nothing violent against them
at anytime . |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Then you drove
away? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. I drove away. I
went home. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
How did you deal
with this situation involving Hy and Cosima? What
I mean by that...did you initiate contact with
them after this incident? |
| Pattinson: |
Well, on the 19th I
was still very very upset. But I had to work a
lot, so I didn't do anything on that particular
day. The next day I was also extremely busy, so I
tried to keep my attention on my..my perfection
of my work rather than thinking about the
emotional upset which I had had. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
You're an artist,
correct? |
| Pattinson: |
Right, I'm an
artist. I was doing the painting for donation to
the Florida Orchestra and it had to be done. It
had to be ready and delivered. And so then I got
to thinking that my manners were not good in...in
England. I'm a British person, so in England like
when you get upset with somebody emotionally,
it's considered very very bad manners. And I felt
that they might get into trouble if somebody had
heard or what...whatever. I spoke to Mary
Vodgeding a little bit about what had occurred. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Can we back up a
little. Mary who? |
| Pattinson: |
Mary Vodgeding. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Can you spell the
last name? |
| Pattinson: |
V O D G E D I N G. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And who is Mary? |
| Pattinson: |
She's the President
of the Flag Service Organization. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And where is that
located at? |
| Pattinson: |
On Ft. Harrison in
Clearwater. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And you had spoken
to Mary about this incident? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, very briefly on
the phone the next day..yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
I told her what had
occurred and I realized that they may get into
very serious trouble within the Church. And I was
still a Scientologist at that particular point. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
They meaning Cosima
and Hy? |
| Pattinson: |
Cosima and Hy...yes.
And so I...I faxed them...I think it was on the
21st...a letter of apology for my emotional
behavior and my impoliteness because I felt that
my manners were wrong. But in retrospect now, I
feel that I was justified in having those
emotions. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. And who did
you fax it to? |
| Pattinson: |
I faxed it to Hy and
to Cosima. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And..well, in
summary were the letters identical or... |
| Pattinson: |
No. They were
just...well, they...they were pretty similar. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And what was..what
was being said in these letters? |
| Pattinson: |
Basically that I was
apologizing for my impoliteness and my behavior
because I had not...I wasn't used to having
emotional outbursts. I'm known as a very reserved
type of person, so that was like very out of
character for me. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
And I apologized to
Hy and to Cosima for my behavior. Actually...I
mean I should never have gone to see Hy. Cosima
should never have taken me there because I had no
intention whatsoever of doing that again. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
But I mean I was
worried... |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So you faxed letters
to them? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I did. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Apologizing for the
way you...you acted? |
| Pattinson: |
For my emotional
outburst, yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Did they give
a response to you from your fax? |
| Pattinson: |
No, they didn't. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Did Mary say
anything about getting information from them
about your fax? |
| Pattinson: |
No. I never received
any kind of reply about that. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
As we had discussed
previously, this incident occurred in...in June
of 96. It's now being reported in May of 97. |
| Pattinson: |
Actually April 97. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
April of 97...I'm
sorry. Why the delay? |
| Pattinson: |
Umm...because
umm...until recently I was still a member of the
Church and I was trying to handle this and deal
with it within the confines of the Church because
I knew that...that something illegal had occurred
at that particular time. But I was scared of
going to the police about it. I did think about
doing that. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Why would you not go
to the police? |
| Pattinson: |
Because internal
Church policies by Ron Hubbard prevent you going
to seek justice other than inside the Church to
start off with unless you receive a reply from
the International Justice Chief telling you to go
to the police or the authorities or sue or bring
civil suit or something like that for an
illegalact. And frankly, quite apart from the
written thing is that the group agreement on this
is that one doesn't go to the police because the
police are the enemy. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
I'm sorry to have to
say that, but that's like the internal feeling. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So that's why you
did not report this to the police? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes...and I tried...
|
| Det. Schaffner: |
Until this time. |
| Pattinson: |
That's right. And I
was trying to deal with it within the confines of
the Church the whole time because I thought I was
gonna be...continue to become a member...to be a
member rather and to continue. But in
April...actually April...I remember April 8th was
that report date...that long report. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
You're talking
about... |
| Pattinson: |
The long ten page
report, which I wrote...a ten page report if I
can find it here... |
| Det. Schaffner: |
April 8th of 97? |
| Pattinson: |
April 8th...right.
So the 8th of April I wrote this report up of the
whole situation which I have had with the Church
of Scientology over the last six years. And it
suddenly hit me that I was not gonna get anywhere
doing this within the Church. At that point, I
decided okay, I've used up all of my resources
apparently within the Church and now I'm gonna go
to the police with it because this is not gonna
occur. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So the Church did
not respond to your request to review this action
or to make it right? |
| Pattinson: |
No. |
| Bet. Schaffner: |
So at that point you
are no longer a member of the Church and... |
| Pattinson: |
Uh Huh. I decided
that I did... |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And that you would
come to the Police Department. |
| Pattinson: |
That's right. I
decided that I did not wish to be a part of that
group anymore considering what had occurred
between me and them for the last six years. I
decided that that was not...not a group I wished
to be a part of anymore. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
So they no longer
influence your decisions? |
| Pattinson: |
No...no. And at that
point, I became free to do what I wished and I
decided to go to the police and to file a
complaint. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. |
| Pattinson: |
I didn't even know
who to go to see. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And you came to the
Police Department on your own free will? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I did. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
You're making this
statement on your own free will? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I am. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
And you know it's
still being recorded. |
| Pattinson: |
That's right. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
After talking with
you, I had a...had you signed a Law Enforcement
Oath Form indicating that you want to prosecute
and what you've told us is the truth. |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, that's correct. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
You signed that
freely? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I did. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Voluntarily? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
You would like to
prosecute this case? |
| Pattinson: |
Yes, I would. If the
State Attorney considers it is a case worthy of
prosecution and that I am a victim of a criminal
act, then I will prosecute. I...I will abide by
the decision of the Assistant State Attorney or
the State Attorney. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. Det. Miller,
do you have any additional questions? |
| Det. Miller: |
No. |
| Det. Schaffner: |
Okay. This will
conclude the interview. It's...the time now is
1810 hours. |
